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ultimategamer2k
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Jun 20, 2001, 12:41 PM

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php in cgi?	Can't Post

is there any way to run a php script in a cgi script?
kind like ssi'ing in a cgi script through an html page...

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Jasmine
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Jun 20, 2001, 1:18 PM

Post #2 of 21 (35048 views)

Re: php in cgi? [In reply to]	Can't Post

(Moved thread to php forum from Perl beginners forum)

php is a cgi programming language, so I'm really not sure what you're asking.

alex
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Jun 23, 2001, 3:45 AM

Post #3 of 21 (35041 views)

Re: php in cgi? [In reply to]	Can't Post

No, i don't think there is.
Php is dependent on its file extension. You can only execute php script code within a valid php script.. it's different to perl as everything in a perl script is perl, but a php script is really an html doc but with embedded tags representing the php code.
e.g

Code

<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>php page</TITLE> 
</HEAD> 
<BODY> 
<? 
print ("this is php"); 
?> 
<h1>This is html</h1> 
</BODY> 
</HTML>

ultimategamer2k
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Jul 6, 2001, 7:51 AM

Post #4 of 21 (35029 views)

Re: php in cgi? [In reply to]	Can't Post

i know that, but i want to know if there is any way to execute a php script inside a perl script..... kinda like ssi...
maybe something like
@output = "path/to.php"

?

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Kagey
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Jul 22, 2001, 7:30 PM

Post #5 of 21 (35008 views)

Re: php in cgi? [In reply to]	Can't Post

In order to do that, the page would have to be sent to 2 different interpreters, which is impossible i think. why use perl at all? stick with php.

Pro_4
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Jul 22, 2001, 7:54 PM

Post #6 of 21 (35005 views)

Re: php in cgi? [In reply to]	Can't Post

Or hey just ditch php all together and do the whole script in perl :p

I am sure whatever you are trying to do with that php stuff it can be done with perl too... unless there is something i missed..

@letters = ('A'..'Z', 'a'..'z', '1'..'5', '_');
@i = ( '15', '43', '40');
print @letters [ @i, -1, 55];

Kagey
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Jul 23, 2001, 9:30 AM

Post #7 of 21 (35000 views)

Re: php in cgi? [In reply to]	Can't Post

no way. php is much better

alex
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Jul 23, 2001, 12:41 PM

Post #8 of 21 (34997 views)

Re: php in cgi? [In reply to]	Can't Post

PHP was made especially for web server-side scripting.
Perl was adapted to function as a CGI method of parsing requests. Why make it harder on yourself by using such an advanced language as perl when you can have an easier and more successful time with php.

Kagey
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Jul 23, 2001, 7:46 PM

Post #9 of 21 (34994 views)

Re: php in cgi? [In reply to]	Can't Post

my point exactly

Pro_4
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Jul 24, 2001, 11:17 AM

Post #10 of 21 (34989 views)

Re: php in cgi? [In reply to]	Can't Post

Because with a more advanced language you get the benefits of more advanced features. Plus i only know Perl so thats my only option. I have looked a little at Php code and so forth but it looked a lot longer to do nearly the same tasks perl does. Maybe i misinterpretted it but i like it when i can write shorter code so it doesnt take as long to pump out scripts.

@letters = ('A'..'Z', 'a'..'z', '1'..'5', '_');
@i = ( '15', '43', '40');
print @letters [ @i, -1, 55];

Jasmine
Administrator

Jul 24, 2001, 11:43 AM

Post #11 of 21 (34986 views)

Re: php in cgi? [In reply to]	Can't Post

Both PHP and Perl are well-suited for CGI. Preference usually lies against the unknown. I prefer Perl because I can't program as fluently in PHP as I do Perl. People who know PHP can say the same about PHP.

PHP is a cgi-only language, and if cgi is the reason anyone needs to program at all, then it may be a perfect choice. Perl is a complete programming language that can be programmed for cgi scripts in addition to the development of complete standalone programs (not web-based).

For those who need only cgi programs, then PHP may be their best choice. For those who need to program outside of a cgi-only environment, Perl, C, VB, etc. are more suitable solutions.

The important thing to understand is that saying "x is better than y" merely demonstrates ignorance of the other language and is not factual, regargless of the language discussed. Each language has its strengths and weaknesses. Adcovacy can be a Very Bad Thing when implemented improperly. Check out Mark-Jason Dominus' "Why I Hate Advocacy" article.

The one thing I would ask of Kagey is if "PHP is much better", why do you need to run a Perl script inside your PHP program? That's not a rhetorical question.

alex
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Jul 31, 2001, 11:31 PM

Post #12 of 21 (34974 views)

Re: php in cgi? [In reply to]	Can't Post

Oh, i'm not saying PHP is a better language than Perl. I'm just saying it's more suited to web development.. and easier for beginners.
Referring to a previous post stating php code takes a lot longer to do the same tasks perl does - That is completely the opposite. When gathering the information from a form all you need to do is access the input names, they're automatically made available to you unlike perl where you have to parse the STDIN.

I'm not knocking perl.. I love it (why else would I be on this forum?)
And, technically speaking.. PHP isn't CGI. You can compile it on your server as a CGI but it's actually a module.

And..I found out the function to call an external script.
Use Virtual()

widexl
Novice

Aug 18, 2001, 3:02 AM

Post #13 of 21 (34952 views)

Re: php in cgi? [In reply to]	Can't Post

My point is do you want what you want or,
do you want what the program language want.

What I like from Perl is that you can do what you want.
What is many times the problem from languages.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Sep 1, 2001, 11:50 PM

Post #14 of 21 (34936 views)

Re: php in cgi? [In reply to]	Can't Post

Just to add my 2 cents. PHP actually has two ways to run, as a module and as CGI depending on how it is setup.

The securest way to run it is as a module, but there are host that will compile it to run as a cgi.

As far as wich is better and which is worse, I use both
and find that both have there weaknesses.

Depending on what you are using each for, Perl is more
powerful in some ways and PHP more powerful in others.

Regards,
Ray

Anonymous
Anonymous

Sep 1, 2001, 11:51 PM

Post #15 of 21 (34936 views)

Re: php in cgi? [In reply to]	Can't Post

When I say which is better I am speaking of PHP vs Perl.

Anonymous
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Feb 25, 2002, 10:57 PM

Post #16 of 21 (34847 views)

Re: [Anonymous] php in cgi? [In reply to]	Can't Post

`/usr/bin/php /path/to/filename.php`

ka0osk
Novice

Mar 20, 2002, 2:16 PM

Post #17 of 21 (34835 views)

Re: [Anonymous] php in cgi? [In reply to]	Can't Post

Actually, if you are running a small site that will probably not grow too much, PHP will fit the bill, as will Cold Fusion.... BUT... IF you may want to eventually run big iron hi-vol, you will probably have to re-write into modperl or something like it...that is, if you are not into huge server farms in order to handle the load. Bottom line: Its easier to re-write Perl into modPerl, than it is to rewrite from PHP, or install a dozen extra servers. I prefer Perl, even for small sites. It don't crash for no reason as often Cool

.

Just my experiance... your mileage may differ. I am doing some sites in PHP also, by the way.. easy to learn.

JSTEP

yapp
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Apr 3, 2002, 6:34 AM

Post #18 of 21 (34829 views)

Re: [ka0osk] php in cgi? [In reply to]	Can't Post

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- hope this helps.

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Cure
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Nov 29, 2002, 10:28 AM

Post #19 of 21 (34540 views)

Re: [Anonymous] php in cgi? [In reply to]	Can't Post

[Anonymous] <->Depending on what you are using each for, Perl is more
powerful in some ways and PHP more powerful in others.

[Anonymous],Please tell me how PHP is more powerful in some ways than Perl.

Cure

localfilmmaker
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Feb 5, 2004, 10:04 AM

Post #20 of 21 (34247 views)

Re: [Anonymous] php in cgi? [In reply to]	Can't Post

[code]`/usr/bin/php /path/to/filename.php`[/code]

Thank goodness someone actually addressed the first question! Yes, you can execute a PHP script from a perl script. You call the php interpreter as an external program and tell it which file to parse. Using the backticks you will capture the output from the php interpreter. You can then simply print that out, or do something to it first.

WP
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Feb 7, 2004, 3:18 PM

Post #21 of 21 (34244 views)

Re: [localfilmmaker] php in cgi? [In reply to]	Can't Post

...and if you use php as a DSO? :)

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Paul Wilson
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http://wilsonprograms.com/

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