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exer
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Nov 10, 2011, 11:55 AM

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Cannot install perl modules	Can't Post

Hi

I have issues installing perl modules via ppm.
For instance, i want to instal Win32::API::Prototype (www.roth.net).

1) I created a new repository (MyNewRepository) in a folder "packages" - C:\Perl\bin\packages.

2) Then i created a new folder x86 within the "packages" folder - C:\Perl\bin\packages\x86.

3) I put ppd file in the "packages" folder.
Win32-API-Prototype.ppd (relative paths) :

Code

<SOFTPKG NAME="Win32-API-Prototype" VERSION="0,2002,12,17"> 
	<TITLE> 
		Win32::API::Prototype 
	</TITLE> 
	<ABSTRACT> 
	        The Win32::API::Prototype module.  
	        Simplifies using Win32::API by accepting a C function prototype  
		and exposing the function by name in the main namespace.</ABSTRACT> 
	<AUTHOR> 
		Roth Consulting (http://www.roth.net/) 
	</AUTHOR> 
	<IMPLEMENTATION> 
		<!-- Perl Version="5005" --> 
		<OS NAME="MSWin32" /> 
		<ARCHITECTURE NAME="MSWin32-x86" /> 
		<DEPENDENCY NAME="Win32-API" VERSION="0,0,0,0" /> 
		<CODEBASE HREF="x86/Win32-API-Prototype.tar.gz" /> 
	</IMPLEMENTATION> 
	 
	<IMPLEMENTATION> 
		<!-- Perl Version="5005_AS" --> 
		<OS NAME="MSWin32" /> 
		<ARCHITECTURE NAME="MSWin32-x86-object" /> 
		<DEPENDENCY NAME="Win32-API" VERSION="0,0,0,0" /> 
		<CODEBASE HREF="x86/Win32-API-Prototype.tar.gz" />	 
	</IMPLEMENTATION> 
	 
	<IMPLEMENTATION> 
		<!-- Perl Version="5006" --> 
		<OS NAME="MSWin32" /> 
		<ARCHITECTURE NAME="MSWin32-x86-multi-thread" /> 
		<DEPENDENCY NAME="Win32-API" VERSION="0,0,0,0" /> 
		<CODEBASE HREF="x86/Win32-API-Prototype.tar.gz" /> 
	</IMPLEMENTATION> 
	 
	<IMPLEMENTATION> 
		<!-- Perl Version="5008" --> 
		<OS NAME="MSWin32" /> 
		<ARCHITECTURE NAME="MSWin32-x86-multi-thread-5.8" /> 
		<DEPENDENCY NAME="Win32-API" VERSION="0,0,0,0" /> 
		<CODEBASE HREF="x86/Win32-API-Prototype.tar.gz" /> 
	</IMPLEMENTATION> 
</SOFTPKG>

4) I put Win32-API-Prototype.tar.gz inside C:\Perl\bin\packages\x86

5) cmd(from packages folder) -> ppm install Win32-API-Prototype.ppd
Returns:
"ppm install failed: The PPD does not provide code to install for this platform"

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Perl: ActivePerl-5.14.2.1402-MSWin32-x86
System: WinXP pro sp3

FishMonger
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Nov 10, 2011, 1:43 PM

Post #2 of 16 (2773 views)

Re: [exer] Cannot install perl modules [In reply to]	Can't Post

Why go through all that trouble? All you need to do is add the roth and bribes repositories and any other desired repository to the ppm config.

Open the ppm gui and go to: Edit -> Preferenses -> Repositories
Then add the desired repository urls.

Here are a few repositories (I pulled from http://docs.activestate.com/activeperl/5.8/faq/ActivePerl-faq2.html#additional_repositories)

Quote

http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/ppms/package.lst The University of Winnipeg's 5.8 PPM repository
http://www.roth.net/perl/packages/ Roth Consulting's package repository
http://www.bribes.org/perl/ppm/ the "Bribes de Perl" (Scraps of Perl) repository (en Français et Anglais)

(This post was edited by FishMonger on Nov 10, 2011, 1:44 PM)

exer
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Nov 10, 2011, 3:06 PM

Post #3 of 16 (2767 views)

Re: [FishMonger] Cannot install perl modules [In reply to]	Can't Post

Thank you for the reply.

I did what you said, imported http://www.roth.net/perl/packages/ package, but i can't find needed modules.
Win32::API::Prototype and Win32::Perms are supposed to be in the roth package, but they're not (?)

I downloaded (before) Win32::API::Prototype from http://search.cpan.org/~daveroth/Win32-API-Prototype/lib/Win32%5CAPI/Prototype.PM
and ppd from http://www.roth.net/perl/prototype/ , to install it manually, which is failed, and now i see it is not in roth package at all (??), (i haven't managed to find Win32::Perms).

This is a real nightmare. Frown

FishMonger
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Nov 10, 2011, 4:53 PM

Post #4 of 16 (2761 views)

Re: [exer] Cannot install perl modules [In reply to]	Can't Post

The module in in the bribes repository. If you add that repository to ppm it will show up in the gui.

Or, you can install in from the command line.

Quote

C:\Users\Ron>ppm install http://www.bribes.org/perl/ppm/Win32-API-Prototype.ppd
Downloading Win32-API-Prototype-20000613.0...done
Unpacking Win32-API-Prototype-20000613.0...done
Generating HTML for Win32-API-Prototype-20000613.0...done
Updating files in site area...done
2 files installed

exer
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Nov 11, 2011, 5:50 AM

Post #5 of 16 (2751 views)

Re: [FishMonger] Cannot install perl modules [In reply to]	Can't Post

Thanks again.

I've added bribes repository to ppm, but api-prototype module didn't show up in gui.

Cmd install returns the same error as with the installation of downloaded Win32-API-Prototype.tar.gz in the local x86 folder:

Quote

ppm install failed: The PPD does not provide code to install for this platform"

???

edit:
I've found this as a suggested solution (an old topic on the roth forum):

Quote

Ok problem solve.

uninstall perl 5.10.

download and install ActivePerl-5.8.8.822-MSWin32-x86-280952.msi

:)

Taking into account that the topic is 3 years old, and i downloaded ActivePerl 5.14 a couple days ago, this is a complete confusion. If 5.8.8 was a beta 3 years ago, how come 5.14 is the latest stable version today?
Anyway, there are no other versions on ActiveState site.

edit2:
One more:
http://dev.pulsed.net/wp/?p=35
Quite unbelievable..

(This post was edited by exer on Nov 11, 2011, 6:55 AM)

exer
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Nov 11, 2011, 7:33 AM

Post #6 of 16 (2740 views)

Re: [exer] Cannot install perl modules [In reply to]	Can't Post

I've found the culprit at last Smile

ppd:

Code

<ARCHITECTURE NAME="MSWin32-x86-multi-thread-5.8" />

should be MSWin32-x86-multi-thread-5.14 (as i run v5.14)
I have edited the local ppd, and managed to install the module via cmd.
Now i need to find win32-perms module too.
ftp://www.roth.net/pub/ntperl/perms/20020605/ from http://www.roth.net/perl/perms/ - is a dead link.

Btw, what is the meaning of "Area" in ppm? What is the difference between perl and site area? (this module 'Prototype' was installed in 'site' area)

(This post was edited by exer on Nov 11, 2011, 7:38 AM)

FishMonger
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Nov 11, 2011, 7:57 AM

Post #7 of 16 (2735 views)

Re: [exer] Cannot install perl modules [In reply to]	Can't Post

That's odd, since it shows up in my ppm gui and is there when I browse to http://www.bribes.org/perl/ppm

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FishMonger
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Nov 11, 2011, 8:09 AM

Post #8 of 16 (2731 views)

Re: [exer] Cannot install perl modules [In reply to]	Can't Post

You might want to keep in mind that Win32::API::Prototype has not been maintained since 2001. I haven't looked, but I'm sure that there is a more up to date alternative.

exer
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Nov 11, 2011, 11:04 AM

Post #9 of 16 (2723 views)

Re: [FishMonger] Cannot install perl modules [In reply to]	Can't Post

Your ppm shows 558 packages in bribes rep. and mine 507.
Probably some packages have outdated ppd <architecture> code, hence cannot be installed.
The old module is ok with me, because i'm only following instructions from a tutorial.

Do you possibly know how can i find win32-perms?

Thanks

FishMonger
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Nov 11, 2011, 12:37 PM

Post #10 of 16 (2712 views)

Re: [exer] Cannot install perl modules [In reply to]	Can't Post

Well, it appears that it's one of those 51 packages that don't show up for you. The one I see hasn't been updated since 2002.

You could use wget to download the tar file and then build it from source. A prereq to that would be to use ppm to install MinGW which provides the required build tools.

My personal recommendation would be to find a more up to date tutorial that doesn't use very old/outdated modules.

exer
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Nov 11, 2011, 2:25 PM

Post #11 of 16 (2706 views)

Re: [FishMonger] Cannot install perl modules [In reply to]	Can't Post

I've never heard of wget. Do you mean to use it to find win32-perms? There's a pretty poor documentation on http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/wget.htm. Can you say what is it precisely for?

As for the tutorial, it's not a perl tut but of an app that uses perl scripts. It's from 2008, and it's the latest available.

FishMonger
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Nov 11, 2011, 2:54 PM

Post #12 of 16 (2704 views)

Re: [exer] Cannot install perl modules [In reply to]	Can't Post

wget is a standard *nix utility for retrieving files from the internet (and as you've found, there's a Windows port).

After you install it, you can download the module source code via:

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C:\>wget http://www.bribes.org/perl/ppm/Win32-Perms-20020605-PPM58.tar.gz

You will then need to untar (unzip) it and build/compile it.

exer
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Nov 11, 2011, 5:22 PM

Post #13 of 16 (2695 views)

Re: [FishMonger] Cannot install perl modules [In reply to]	Can't Post

Sorry for so many questions, i have 3 more. Angelic

1) Why should i have wget to download that tar.gz? I have already downloaded it from your link.
2) How to compile it? I thought scripts don't need to be compiled.
3) Why this module is not ready for installation (compiled) as win32-api-prototype was?

Thank you for your time and replies.

exer
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Nov 12, 2011, 1:41 PM

Post #14 of 16 (2674 views)

Re: [exer] Cannot install perl modules [In reply to]	Can't Post

I wanted to try to build the module by MinGw so i downloaded it through >ppm instal MinGW. But surprisingly it downloaded some roth modules first (win32-Perms and /already manually installed before/ win32-api-prototype among them) :

Code

C:\Documents and Settings\yourname>ppm install mingw 
 
Downloading ActiveState Package Repository packlist...done 
Updating ActiveState Package Repository database...done 
Downloading MyNewRepository packlist...not modified 
Downloading Roth-package-repository packlist...done 
Downloading Roth-package-repository GDBM_File PPD...done 
Downloading Roth-package-repository Win32-AdminMisc PPD...done 
Downloading Roth-package-repository Win32-API-Prototype  PPD...done 
Downloading Roth-package-repository Win32-Daemon PPD...done 
Downloading Roth-package-repository Win32-EventLog-Message PPD...done 
Downloading Roth-package-repository Win32-Exchange PPD...done 
Downloading Roth-package-repository Win32-Message PPD...done 
Downloading Roth-package-repository Win32-ODBCBETA PPD...done 
Downloading Roth-package-repository Win32-Perms PPD...done 
Downloading Roth-package-repository Win32-Pipe PPD...done 
Downloading Roth-package-repository Win32-RASAdmin PPD...done 
Downloading Roth-package-repository Win32-Scheduler PPD...done 
Downloading Roth-package-repository Win32-Tie-Ini PPD...done 
Downloading Roth-package-repository Win32-Volume PPD...done 
Downloading Bribes-repository packlist...done 
Updating Bribes-repository database...done 
Downloading MinGW-5.1.4.1...done 
Downloading dmake-4.11.20080107...done 
Unpacking MinGW-5.1.4.1...done 
Unpacking dmake-4.11.20080107...done 
Generating HTML for MinGW-5.1.4.1...done 
Generating HTML for dmake-4.11.20080107...done 
Updating files in site area...done 
1070 files installed

So, i was hoping that win32-Perms was finally downloaded, however, when i checked repositiries in ppm gui, there have been 0 packages in roth repository, and of course search of win32-perms package gives no result.

Must say this ActivePerl logic is very hard to understand..

(This post was edited by exer on Nov 12, 2011, 1:45 PM)

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exer
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Nov 13, 2011, 8:10 AM

Post #15 of 16 (2630 views)

Re: [exer] Cannot install perl modules [In reply to]	Can't Post

I downloaded the source tarball from bribes (www.bribes.org/perl/ppm/Win32-Perms-20020605-PPM58.tar.gz), extracted it to the location of MyNewRepository (Perl\bin\packages), cd'ed to that location and run:

Code

>perl Makefile.PL

but:

Quote

Can't open perl script "Makefile.PL": No such file or directory

Btw after the mingw installation, there's no makefile.pl file in the Perl directory tree.

I noticed that many people have the same problem, but no one got an answer.
Can anyone help with this horrific process?

Thanks

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